What Your Lawmakers Think of You (Oklahoma Edition)

Oklahoma law on carrying weapons is nicely summed up in the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act. Here is a little detail from it on what is a weapon:

Title 21 1272
…any pistol, revolver, shotgun or rifle whether loaded or unloaded or any dagger, bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade knife, spring-type knife, sword cane, knife having a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife,blackjack, loaded cane, billy, hand chain, metal knuckles, or any other offensive weapon, whether such weapon be concealed or unconcealed…

that “offensive weapon” stuck at the end basically covers anything useful in a fight. Title 21 1276 makes it a misdemeanor to carry any of those things assuming you don’t have a concealed carry license.

Then we get to places where, even with a CCL you can’t carry which happens to include elementary, secondary, and technology centers (Title 21 1277). 1277 paragraph C makes it a misdemeanor to carry in those places. But I thought it was a felony to carry at school you say? They took care of that in 1278 titled “Unlawful intent to carry” which says (underlining by me):

Any person in this state who carries or wears any deadly weapons or dangerous instrument whatsoever with the intent or for the avowed purpose of unlawfully injuring another person, upon conviction, shall be guilty of a felony. The fine for a violation of this section shall not exceed Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00). The mere possession of such a weapon or dangerous instrument, without more, however, shall not be sufficient to establish intent as required by this section.

So you shouldn’t carry “offensive weapons” at places like schools and if you do it is a misdemeanor. If you carry them with the intent of harming someone who didn’t need harming, then it is a felony. Now I happen to think that adults should be allowed to carry firearms at school, but it does seem like our lawmakers actually thought this through and realized that there is a difference between good guys and bad guys. We don’t want weapons in school and if you’re a good guy we’ll remind you of that fact with a fine. If you’re a bad guy though, you’re going to state PMITA prison.

But really, I thought it was always a felony in Oklahoma to carry a firearm on school property. I really don’t know when it happened, but apparently your Oklahoma lawmakers eventually decided that your intent had nothing to do with it.

Title 21 1280.1 Possession of firearm on school property

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to have in his or her possession on any public or private school property  or while in any school bus or vehicle used by any school for transportation of students or teachers any firearm or weapon designated in Section 1272 of this title, except as provided in subsection C of this section or as otherwise authorized by law….

D. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a felony…

So lawmakers went from “there’s a difference between a good guy who makes a mistake and a bad guy who needs to be put in a hole” to if you are carrying a firearm on school property then you are f-ing mutant who needs to go straight to PMITA prison and right now.

It’s actually worse than that. By incorporating the weapon list from section 1272 this section covers any “offensive weapon”. So if you carry anything that could even be considered an offensive weapon, whether or not you have evil intent, you are off to PMITA prison.

Your Oklahoma lawmakers think you are a child and that if you have a weapon to defend yourself that you are actually a really bad guy. Not just a good guy who wants to protect himself and his family while happening to be geographically at a school.

Oh, why this rant?

Because I had to spend part of my Saturday helping a teenager come up with a plan to deal with a student who came off a seven-day suspension on Monday. What was he suspended for? My student ratted him out for carrying a concealed knife which he told my student he intended to stab another student with. Why was the student suspended instead of sent to jail? I have no F-ing idea. The law clearly spells out that there is no discretion. Get caught with a weapon at school and you are a felon. The funny thing is, even without 1280.1, the kid is still a felon because of his intent.

I don’t want to hear any namby-pamby crap about tougher laws. We have tough laws. Laws that treat adults like children. And we don’t enforce those, even when other children are in danger.

Here is an idea. Lets roll back the nanny laws and treat adults like adults and children like children. Kids shouldn’t go to jail as felons because they get angry. Adults shouldn’t be treated like children or criminals because they take responsibility for protecting their family. Then when I am at school with my kids and some knife wielding teenager tries to stab one of them I can solve that problem. Or if the kid is all talk, then his intended victim and a few friends can ‘explain’ to him after school that it is not wise to threaten people.

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  • Jennifer  On December 15, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    I was just thinking about this last night as we parked our vehicle off of school property for the band concert since even having a firearm in a locked vehicle in the parking lot of the school can get you sent to jail. You know, because it might decide to go on a rampage of its own accord.

  • stewlamonster@hotmail.com  On December 16, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    I heard that there was a teacher that wanted to keep the children from possessing writing utensils (pencils). When are we going to start holding the PEOPLE responsible and quit blaming the tools used.

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